tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2742463383259663682024-03-05T20:14:02.902-08:00Acquittal.Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-19103966793550747052019-09-17T14:13:00.000-07:002019-10-28T09:00:57.379-07:00We lost this case. We should have won it.<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3xmU1aPlsHw" width="480"></iframe>
<br />Appealed, but missed the date for filing. This takes a half hour.
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<br /><b>There is no right to see the White House fountain.</b>
<br /><b>There is no right to have a White House fountain.</b>
<br /><b>There is no right to have a White House.</b>
<br /><b>There <i>is</i> a right to protest</b>
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<br /><b>THE STRUCTURE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS</b>
<br /> <i><b>00:00</b></i>
Question - Why was the sidewalk closed? [What was the crime?]
<br />The normal pattern of an arrest.
<br /> <i><b>02:00</b></i>
Options that the police have. Set up a perimeter or not.
<br />There are two things going on
<br />The Regulation: 36CFR7.96 (g.5.vii) last two sentences
<br /> The Title of (g) is "Demonstrations"
<br /> <i><b>04:50</b></i>
Police create a control area (put up tape)
<br /> "stopping with a sign in the center zone"
<br /> <i><b>09:00</b></i>
The First Amendment explained
<br /> <i><b>13:00</b></i>
except: Time Place Manner
<br /> <i><b>14:45</b></i>
Traditional Public Forum
<br /> <i><b>15:30</b></i>
"substantially unobstructed view"
<br /> <i><b>16:30</b></i>
boldly aimed at protected activity
<br /> <i><b>21:00</b></i>
Deconflict - The Reviewing Stand across the street
<br /> <i><b>23:00</b></i>
Mary Grace!! The Presidential Seal rule
<br /> <i><b>25:30</b></i>
Put the sign down?
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<br /> Videos of the event are posted in 2019 March
<br /> Look at the Blog History to the Right, or <a href="https://june26whitehousesidewalk.blogspot.com/2019/03/">here</a>Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-25090642761803600742019-03-26T13:12:00.002-07:002019-10-28T09:04:42.399-07:00Added 2019 some videos1. [<a href="https://youtu.be/WMBfXtoMA-E">video 1</a>]
<br /> - Diane Wilson, interview
<br /> - the view from across the street after the closing,
<br /> - VFW on the curb,
<br /> - Diane on the White House lawn,
<br /> - Keven Zeese with careless uninformed talk
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2. <a href="https://youtu.be/eHsGeQYtYVg">[video 2</a>]
<br /> - CodePink, force feeding (Tigue)
<br /> - off camera, Diane jumps the fence, some run to her
<br /> - Sidewalk closed,
<br /> - arrest of Medea,
<br /> - VFW stopped from handcuffing himself to the fence,
<br /> - and 10 more minutes Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-84288228487639987872014-09-06T19:38:00.001-07:002014-09-06T19:48:42.818-07:0084-5271 White House Vigil @118The purpose of the sentence 7 proviso<br />
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"Nor is it any mystery why the Park Service decided to allow non-stationary protests within the center zone, even though such protests will admittedly obscure some of the White House view. Assuming arguendo that a ban on non-stationary protests would have been constitutional, the effect of instituting such a ban would be to demarcate a "no man's land" in the middle of the sidewalk. Protestors on either side of the zone would have considerable difficulty communicating with one another, for they would be prohibited from carrying their signs across the demarcated area. The regulation the Park Service adopted represents a reasonable effort to accommodate the needs of such protestors."Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-123532568412815222013-07-21T13:13:00.002-07:002013-08-05T14:45:15.193-07:00Substantially unobstructed view of the White House<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgke0Ozx7aCGaUuM9GmoGCHyerA2gRHLA4gUk06qTg9-KPYFWZKemDiKV4JIS9XC2jnN7x8uss_0R1EvaaVtou9SpeU0N3lwiO01G8FETGipIiGXrzNu_i968v2eRRRd-7Z3h3Il9dM51_i/s1600/2013+0628+photo+of+WhiteHouse+2.png" imageanchor="1" ><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgke0Ozx7aCGaUuM9GmoGCHyerA2gRHLA4gUk06qTg9-KPYFWZKemDiKV4JIS9XC2jnN7x8uss_0R1EvaaVtou9SpeU0N3lwiO01G8FETGipIiGXrzNu_i968v2eRRRd-7Z3h3Il9dM51_i/s320/2013+0628+photo+of+WhiteHouse+2.png" /></a><br />
BingoMartyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-10171869952972246872013-07-21T08:32:00.000-07:002019-02-10T11:09:14.533-08:00The Law<br />01. What the CFR is(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Federal_Regulations">wikipedia</a>)
<br />02. <a href="http://bit.ly/36CFR796">36CFR7.96</a> Center Zone: G.5.viii ¶2
<br />03. <a href="http://prop1.org/legal/cfrregs/fr850820.htm">Federal Register 1985</a> on the new regulations
<br />04. Freedom of speech (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_the_United_States">wikipedia</a>) (<a href="http://www.tedford-herbeck-free-speech.com/decisions.html">case law</a>)
<br />05. Strict scrutiny (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_scrutiny">wikipedia</a>)
<br />06. Intermediate scrutiny (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_scrutiny">wikipedia</a>)
<br />07. 1972 Grayned v City of Rockford (<a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9438961868955985513&q=grayned&hl=en&as_sdt=2,33&as_vis=1">SC, 70-5106</a>) TPM trigger
<br />08. 1984 Clark v CCNV (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_v._C.C.N.V.">wikipedia</a>)
<br />09. 1984 WH Vigil for the ERA v Clark (<a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17464706228301106123">DC, 84-5271</a>) (<a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17558471545819686220&q=White+House+Vigil+for+the+ERA&hl=en&as_sdt=2,33&as_vis=1">Injunction</a>)
<br />10. 1989 Ward v Rock Against Racism (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_v._Rock_Against_Racism">wikipedia</a>) (<a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2205493593660669069&q=Rock+against+racism&hl=en&as_sdt=2,33&as_vis=1">SC</a>),(<a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17738879315279648167&q=Rock+against+racism&hl=en&as_sdt=2,33&as_vis=1">2nd Circuit</a>)
<br /> 11. 1983 Perry Educ. Ass'n v Perry Local Educators' Ass'n, (<a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/460/37">SC,81-896</a>)
<br /> 12. 1939 Hague v CIO (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hague_v._Committee_for_Industrial_Organization">wikipedia</a>),(<a href="http://www.tedford-herbeck-free-speech.com/hague.html">SC,39-0651</a>), the public forum doctrine
<br /> 13. 1983 US v Mary Grace (<a href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/1982/81-1863">SC, 81-1863</a>) and
<br /> <font color="#ffffff">13.</font> 2013 Hodge v Talkin (<a href="http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Hodge-ruling.pdf">DC, 12-00104</a>), demonstration at the SC
<br /> 14. 1985 US v Mary Grace (<a href="ftp://law.resource.org/us/case/reporter/F2/778/778.F2d.818.85-5174.html">DC, 85-5174</a>) Presidential Seal Exception ¶¶9&10
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<br />42 U.S.C. § 1983 - Civil Rights violations Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-38486181818498016582013-07-21T08:30:00.001-07:002013-12-21T14:58:31.888-08:00Ambiguities in the regulations1. Walk through the Center Zone vs walk in circles within the Center Zone.<br />
2. Hand held signs vs self-supporting signs. <br >
3. Unobstructed view <i>from where</i><br />
4. Unobstructed view vs ugly signs <br />
5. Signs that are ugly vs signs are ugly. <br />
<small>6. By the way, why say placards? </small><br />Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-91295847446798611732013-07-21T07:11:00.002-07:002013-08-07T19:55:40.929-07:00From Time Place and Manner<br />01. The video of the closing of the sidewalk, <a href="http://timeplaceandmanner.blogspot.com/2013/07/white-house-june-26th-2013.html">here</a>.
<br />02. The problems with White House Vigil, <a href="http://timeplaceandmanner.blogspot.com/2013/08/white-house-vigil.html">here</a>.
<br />03. The Presidential Seal Exception, <a href="http://timeplaceandmanner.blogspot.com/2012/01/presidential-seal-exception.html">here</a>.
<br />04. Traditional public forum, and the center of the national stage, <a href=http://timeplaceandmanner.blogspot.com/2012/10/demonstrations.html>here</a>.
<br />05. Compatible use, <a href="http://timeplaceandmanner.blogspot.com/2012/01/exclusive-use-or-compatible-use.html">here</a>. Permits are all the regulation you need.
<br />06. Necessary and Proper, <a href="http://timeplaceandmanner.blogspot.com/2011/11/is-it-constitutional-to-assemble-with.html">here</a>.
<br />07. Overbroad, <a href="http://timeplaceandmanner.blogspot.com/2012/01/overbroad.html">here</a>
<br />08. Criminalization of dissent, <a href="http://timeplaceandmanner.blogspot.com/2012/01/center-zone-violation-g5viii.html">here</a>.
<br />09. History of arrests, <a href="http://timeplaceandmanner.blogspot.com/2011/09/we-shall-overcome.html">here</a> Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-52322650487463129162013-07-20T22:26:00.001-07:002013-07-20T23:10:31.967-07:00Interpreting the First AmendmentRemember that the Bill of rights, including the First Amendment, was added to the Constitution in order to placate revolutionaries who violently resisted oppressive government.
"Congress shall make no law ... abridging the ... right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-79546593337833379082013-07-20T20:55:00.000-07:002013-07-21T08:58:16.093-07:00Time Cleared - 1800 hoursNote on Officer Nielsen's report the time that the sidewalk was re-opened: 6pm. That means that because of the method of enforcement, the sidewalk was closed for five hours. How does this serve the compelling state interest to protect <i>a substantially unobstructed view of the White House for tourists and passersby</i>.<br /> The tourists and passersby who were there are long gone. Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12535061710557436016noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-274246338325966368.post-68980281279400684442013-07-20T14:54:00.003-07:002013-07-21T08:55:58.559-07:00Officer Nielsen's Police ReportAnd what's remarkable about it.<br />
Click on the report, to enlarge it.<br />
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